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		<title>Conspiracy revisited</title>
		<link>http://www.raggedclown.com/2011/02/17/conspiracy-revisited/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 05:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone remember the Iraq War? Bush and Cheney made a bunch of claims about Iraq that weren&#8217;t true&#8230;most people didn&#8217;t believe them until they sent Powell up to make a big speech at the UN&#8230; &#8230;remember? Their source &#8211; curveball &#8230; <a href="http://www.raggedclown.com/2011/02/17/conspiracy-revisited/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone remember the Iraq War?</p>
<p>Bush and Cheney made a bunch of claims about Iraq that weren&#8217;t true&#8230;most people didn&#8217;t believe them until they sent Powell up to make a big speech at the UN&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;remember?</p>
<p>Their source &#8211; curveball &#8211; has finally spoken up. Not only was he lying all along&#8230;everyone &#8211; CIA, German handlers, everyone who had anything to do with him &#8211; suspected he was lying at the time. Everyone except Powell. No one told Powell. <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/16/colin-powell-cia-curveball">Powell&#8217;s not happy</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Responding to the Guardian&#8217;s revelation that the source, Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi or &#8220;Curveball&#8221; as his US and German handlers called him, admitted fabricating evidence of Iraq&#8217;s secret biological weapons programme, Powell said that questions should be put to the US agencies involved in compiling the case for war.</p>
<p>In particular he singled out the CIA and the Defence Intelligence Agency â€“ the Pentagon&#8217;s military intelligence arm. Janabi, an Iraqi defector, was used as the primary source by the Bush administration to justify invading Iraq in March 2003. Doubts about his credibility circulated before the war and have been confirmed by his admission this week that he lied.</p>
<p>Powell said that the CIA and DIA should face questions about why they failed to sound the alarm about Janabi. He demanded to know why it had not been made clear to him that Curveball was totally unreliable before false information was put into the key intelligence assessment, or NIE, put before Congress, into the president&#8217;s state of the union address two months before the war and into his own speech to the UN.</p>
<p>&#8220;It has been known for several years that the source called Curveball was totally unreliable,&#8221; he told the Guardian . &#8220;The question should be put to the CIA and the DIA as to why this wasn&#8217;t known before the false information was put into the NIE sent to Congress, the president&#8217;s state of the union address and my 5 February presentation to the UN.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Still Angry After All These Years</title>
		<link>http://www.raggedclown.com/2010/03/07/still-angry-after-all-these-years/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I experience stabbing pains of guilt when I read about the Iraq Inquiry in Britain. ThatÂ  horrible story no longer moves me to anger; I just shake my head and keep walking. I am sincerely grateful, therefore, to Daniel Larison &#8230; <a href="http://www.raggedclown.com/2010/03/07/still-angry-after-all-these-years/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I experience stabbing pains of guilt when I read about the Iraq Inquiry in Britain. ThatÂ  horrible story no longer moves me to anger; I just shake my head and keep walking.</p>
<p>I am sincerely grateful, therefore, to <a title="American Conservative" href="http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2010/03/07/who-would-want-credit-for-iraq/">Daniel Larison in The American Conservative</a> for still being very angry. I am glad he won&#8217;t let it rest.</p>
<blockquote><p>Of course the new administration will try to make the best of it, claim progress and take credit for anything it can. That is in the political self-interest of this administration. Having inherited a mess that the political class has convinced itself was improving, it would not be advantageous to be the one overseeing the unraveling. The rest of us are not burdened by such considerations.</p></blockquote>
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I donâ€™t think it is particular <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/article.nationalreview.com');" href="http://article.nationalreview.com/427009/credit-where-credit-isnt-due/jonah-goldberg?page=2">noble</a> to destroy another peopleâ€™s country on the basis of unfounded, paranoid fears that its small, economically weak, militarily inferior government posed grave threats to the global superpower. There are many words that come to mind to describe this, but noble is not one of them. It is not especially noble to do this with no meaningful plan for restoring order and governance in the wake of the invasion. There is no nobility to be found in the afterthought of poorly constructing a democratic regime whose elections served as the trigger for massive bloodshed. Likewise, there was not much nobility when our government belatedly recognized its incompetence and failure long after it could do the civilian casualties any good and proposed a plan that would temporarily reduce violence long enough for the previous administration to get out the door.</p></blockquote>
<p>My anger is still there but is deep below the surface but I am glad that Larison is still able to rouse it back up and remind me. I don&#8217;t want to forget.</p>
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		<title>If only we knew then what we know now</title>
		<link>http://www.raggedclown.com/2009/02/05/if-only-we-knew-then-what-we-know-now/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Early in the morning of February 2, the Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction released Hard Lessons, a summary of all that has gone wrong in postwar Iraq. Hard Lessons may be the single most dismaying state paper released by an &#8230; <a href="http://www.raggedclown.com/2009/02/05/if-only-we-knew-then-what-we-know-now/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Early in the morning of February 2, the Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction released <em><a href="http://www.sigir.mil/hardlessons/default.aspx">Hard Lessons</a></em>, a summary of all that has gone wrong in postwar Iraq. <em>Hard Lessons</em> may be the single most dismaying state paper released by an American official in the post-Vietnam era.</p></blockquote>
<p>David Frum, Neocon and former speech writer to President Bush, is <a title="New Majority" href="http://newmajority.com/ShowScroll.aspx?ID=d7e1e113-666d-40a0-8af1-1995b580b656">serializing snippets of the Inspector General&#8217;s report on his blog</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>This is a document that reflects incredibly poorly on just about every Iraq war decision maker, and it is all the more depressing for being so vividly â€“ pungently â€“ written. This is our most authoritative and most detailed single volume on what went wrong in Iraq.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Six years, four thousand lives and hundreds of billions of dollars later, we seem at last to have stabilized Iraq. This weekendâ€™s elections occurred peacefully, and the US goal of an Iraq that does not threaten its neighbors or its people now looks within reach. Yet we all have to be haunted by the question: Did it have to take so long and cost so much?</p></blockquote>
<p>Frum&#8217;s (and the report&#8217;s) analysis is brutally honest and, probably like many who criticized the whole misbegotten exercise from the beginning, I am torn between deeply grateful for his honesty and cursing him for waiting until his honesty made no difference.</p>
<blockquote><p>All the interagency Iraq planning groups worked in secret. Few knew the others existed. Officials justified the extreme secrecy on the grounds that ongoing diplomatic negotiations would be undercut if Saddam knew that postwar planning was well underway. (64)</p></blockquote>
<p>A commenter wonders</p>
<blockquote><p>how this  rehash of the past by bureaucrats and biased journalists fits with a plan to restore a conservative majority?</p></blockquote>
<p>Presumably the unbiased journalists would have stopped reporting after we won?</p>
<p><a title="New Majority" href="http://newmajority.com/ShowScroll.aspx?ID=ed3126aa-94f4-4089-aae1-506a3b63bc0d">In Part 2</a>, Frum talks about the poor planning.</p>
<blockquote><p>Garner laid out four rebuilding scenarios for Rumsfeld, from â€œdo what absolutely needs to be done and no moreâ€ to â€œredo the whole country of Iraq.â€<br />
â€œWhat do you think thatâ€™ll cost?â€ Rumsfeld asked.<br />
â€œI think itâ€™s going to cost billions of dollars,â€ Garner said.<br />
â€œMy friend,â€ Rumsfeld replied, â€œif you think weâ€™re going to spend a billion dollars of our money over there, you are sadly mistaken.â€ (80)</p></blockquote>
<p><a title="New Majority" href="http://newmajority.com/ShowScroll.aspx?ID=54867288-facd-4b4c-a27e-d87aa4b6b5ba">Part 3</a> covers the <em>mission accomplished</em> period.</p>
<blockquote><p>Two weeks had passed since Saddamâ€™s regime had fallen. Outside the gates of the Republican Palace where ORHA was trying to set up shop, anarchy reigned. â€œWe found the city in utter chaos,â€ said Richard Miller, one of six police advisors sent by the Justice Department. In some places, â€œcorpses littered the streets, AK-47 fire was near constant, and looters operated with impunity.â€ Many government buildings had been destroyed.</p></blockquote>
<p>If I recall correctly, that was about the peak of the <em>liberal media only report the bad stuff</em> era.</p>
<blockquote><p>Result: While Bremer was settling in for a long occupation of Iraq, Franks was accelerating plans for troop withdrawals â€“ first canceling a planned reinforcement of 50,000 post-conflict troops, then planning for a reduction to fewer than 30,000 US troops by the end of August 2003.</p></blockquote>
<p>In <a title="New Majority" href="http://newmajority.com/ShowScroll.aspx?ID=bc1c39a2-43c8-4c38-a461-c6098261e01b">part 4</a>, we are reminded of how</p>
<blockquote><p>The Iraq war was supposed to pay for itself, as the Gulf War had done a dozen years before. Instead, since 2003, Iraq has become the largest single-nation recipient of US international assistance in history.</p></blockquote>
<p>As late as 2004 they were still celebrating their fantastic successes.</p>
<blockquote><p>In a hastily arranged ceremony, the CPA folded its tent in the Green Zone on June 28, 2004, returning sovereignty to Iraq two days ahead of schedule. As its senior officials departed, the CPA issued a glowing report card on itself titled, â€œAn Historic Review of CPA Accomplishments. Ambassador Bremer compared the reconstruction of Iraq to the Marshall Plan, and the CPAâ€™s self-assessment ended with a list of achievements purporting to show that the CPA had done more in a shorter period of time in Iraq than the United States had accomplished nearly six decades earlier in postwar Germany. For example, Bremer noted, the CPA had created an independent central bank in two months; Germany did not have one for three years. Iraq became independent after one year; German sovereignty did not come for a decade. The CPA had â€œtrained a new militaryâ€ in three months; in Germany it took ten years. The CPA put together a reconstruction program in just four months; the Marshall Plan was designed over three years.</p></blockquote>
<p>But, as we all knew then and as officialdom finally concedes now</p>
<blockquote><p>The CPAâ€™s self-assessment missed the mark. The Iraq it left behind was in a perilous stateâ€¦</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Iraq had slipped into the grip of a fierce insurgency, more U.S. troops were dying almost every day, and the occupation had soured many Iraqis on the continuing U.S. presence in their country.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Great Leaders</title>
		<link>http://www.raggedclown.com/2009/01/26/great-leaders/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hands up who, in 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2006, when the president said &#8220;Absolutely, we&#8217;re winning&#8221; thought the mainstream media was distorting the news to make it appear that the president was misleading the public? Anyone? No? Me neither. &#8220;Absolutely, &#8230; <a href="http://www.raggedclown.com/2009/01/26/great-leaders/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hands up who, in 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2006, when the president said &#8220;Absolutely, we&#8217;re winning&#8221; thought the mainstream media was distorting the news to make it appear that the president was misleading the public?</p>
<p>Anyone?</p>
<p>No? Me neither.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Absolutely, we&#8217;re winning,&#8221; the president said during an October 2006 news conference. &#8220;We&#8217;re winning.&#8221; His confident remarks came during one of the lowest points of the war, at a time when anyone with a TV screen knew that the war was going badly. On Feb. 5, 2005, as he was moving up from his first-term role as Rice&#8217;s deputy to become national security adviser, Stephen J. Hadley had offered a private, confidential assessment of the problems of Bush&#8217;s Iraq-dominated first term. &#8220;I give us a B-minus for policy development,&#8221; he said, &#8220;and a D-minus for policy execution.&#8221; The president later told me that he knew that the Iraq &#8220;strategy wasn&#8217;t working.&#8221; So how could the United States be winning a war with a failing strategy?</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe you had some doubts about whether Iraq was involved in 9/11? You wouldn&#8217;t have been the only one.</p>
<blockquote><p>Vice President Cheney was urging Secretary of State Colin Powell to consider seriously the possibility that Iraq might be connected to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Powell found the case worse than ridiculous and scornfully concluded that Cheney had what Powell termed a &#8220;fever.&#8221; (In private, Powell used to call the Pentagon policy shop run by Undersecretary of Defense Douglas J. Feith, who shared Cheney&#8217;s burning interest in supposed ties between al-Qaeda and Iraq, a &#8220;Gestapo office.&#8221;)</p></blockquote>
<p>Everyone has doubts though, right?</p>
<blockquote><p>During a December 2003 interview with Bush, I read him a quote from his closest ally, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, about the experience of receiving letters from family members of slain soldiers who had written that they hated him. &#8220;And don&#8217;t believe anyone who tells you when they receive letters like that, they don&#8217;t suffer any doubt,&#8221; Blair had said.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yeah,&#8221; Bush replied. &#8220;I haven&#8217;t suffered doubt.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Is that right?&#8221; I asked. &#8220;Not at all?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No,&#8221; he said.</p></blockquote>
<p><a title="Washington Post" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/14/AR2009011402791.html?sid=ST2009011900856&amp;s_pos=">Bob Woodward has published a list of 10 leadership tips</a> for Obama illustrated with episodes from the Bush presidency.Â  It&#8217;s fascinating reading.</p>
<blockquote><p>In 2004-06, the CIA was reporting that Iraq was getting more violent and less stable. By mid-2006, Bush&#8217;s own NSC deputy for Iraq, Meghan O&#8217;Sullivan, had a blunt assessment of conditions in Baghdad: &#8220;It&#8217;s hell, Mr. President.&#8221; But the Pentagon remained optimistic and reported that a strategy of drawing down U.S. troops and turning security over to the Iraqis would end in &#8220;self-reliance&#8221; in 2009.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Good things might happen</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This may well be the first time that someone from the other side has shown any sign of understanding my opposition to the Iraq War. As many war supporters pointed out, then and now, there were all sorts of positive &#8230; <a href="http://www.raggedclown.com/2009/01/13/good-things-might-happen/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may well be the first time that <a title="The Atlantic" href="http://rossdouthat.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/01/hope_is_not_a_strategy.php">someone from <em>the other side</em> has shown any sign of understanding my opposition to the Iraq War</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>As many war supporters pointed out, then and now, there were all sorts of positive developments that could have flowed from Saddam Hussein&#8217;s ouster. And over the long haul, some of them still might come to pass, despite the toll the war has taken. But the pre-war debate revolved around weapons of mass destruction for a reason: It was &#8220;the one reason everyone could agree on,&#8221; as Paul Wolfowitz famously put it, because it was the one reason for war that was premised on an immediate and tangible military objective &#8211; disarm a bad guy before he uses his weapons against you &#8211; and that didn&#8217;t depend on long-range hypotheticals about Arab democratization, an Iran-Syria domino effect, a weak horse/strong horse dynamic, and so forth. Strip away Saddam&#8217;s (supposed) rearmament and the imminent threat it (supposedly) posed, and the fact that you had nine other &#8220;here&#8217;s why this <em>might</em> be a good idea&#8221; reasons for war did not a strong-enough justication for war make. Military conflict is simultaneously too grave and too unpredictable to be entered into if your primary objective depends upon a chain of hypothetical second-order consequences stretching across months and years.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>It&#8217;ll pay for itself</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remember the Iraq War? Now that Bush and Maliki have agreed on the timetable for withdrawal that amounted to surrender back when democrats supported it, Andy McCarthy, in the Nation Review, suddenly notices that INCONVENIENT FACT: THE IRAQIS DONâ€™T LIKE &#8230; <a href="http://www.raggedclown.com/2008/11/20/itll-pay-for-itself/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember the Iraq War? Now that Bush and Maliki have agreed on the timetable for withdrawal that amounted to surrender back when democrats supported it, <a title="National Review" href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YTUyYmY0ZWYyODM0NWUyYjZjZTljYzA1NzhiNDY0OTM=&amp;w=MA==">Andy McCarthy, in the Nation Review</a>, suddenly notices that</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><span class="subhead">INCONVENIENT FACT: THE IRAQIS DONâ€™T LIKE US</span></strong><strong><span><br />
</span></strong>This last point is the one that gnaws. Thousands of American lives and hundreds of billions in taxpayer funds have been expended to provide Iraqis the opportunity to live freely. And this despite the facts that (a) the U.S. interest in Iraqi democracy remains tenuous (our interest was the elimination of Saddamâ€™s terror-mongering, weapons-proliferating regime), and (b) Americans were assured, when the nation-building enterprise commenced, that oil-rich Iraq would underwrite our sacrifices on its behalf. Yet, to be blunt, the Iraqis remain ingrates. That stubborn fact complicates everything.<strong><span></p>
<p></span></strong>Yesterday, speaking about the SOFA on condition of anonymity, a senior administration official acknowledged as much: â€œWeâ€™re still not popular with the Iraqis.â€ Thatâ€™s putting it mildly. <strong><span><br />
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<p>It&#8217;s almost as if they don&#8217;t think of us as liberators.</p>
<p>McCarthy ends by wondering whether Iraq would be an ally in a future war with Iran. <a title="Obsidian Wings" href="http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/11/ingrates.html">Eric Martin at Obsidian Wings</a> answers</p>
<blockquote><p>First, the question of the allegiance of Iraq&#8217;s governemt answers itself: We have overseen the ascendance of political parties that were either formed in Iran by the Iranians, or had been housed in Iran for decades prior to the invasion.Â  These parties have, naturally, very close ties to Iran.Â  They will not, absent Iranian aggression or extreme overreach, go to war with Iran at our behest, or permit us to do the same from their soil.Â  Nor do large segments of the Iraqi population, who have had the benefit of an up close view of the splendors of shock and awe, wish to visit such a fate on neighboring Iran.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Second, if victory in Iraq means an Iraq that is both free of al-Qaeda and an ally against Iran, then we had already won before we invaded, and then squandered our winnings through the invasion itself.Â  By invading, we allowed a previously non-existent AQI to emerge while greatly empowering Iran by removing its longtime regional adversary and replacing Saddam with extremely Iran-friendly political parties like ISCI and Maliki&#8217;s Dawa.</p>
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		<title>three trillion dollars worth of rose petals</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Catching up on my Tom Tomorrows. Haven&#8217;t read it for a while. More here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catching up on my Tom Tomorrows. Haven&#8217;t read it for a while.</p>
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<p><a title="Credo" href="http://action.credomobile.com/comics/2008/03/at_first_they_told_us_the_war.html">More here.</a></p>
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		<title>Wave the white flag of surrender</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Had a pleasant conversation with a friend last week about whether McCain intends to keep American forces in Iraq forever, or just indefinitely. I think we concluded (at least I did) that both McCain and Obama would, at some point, &#8230; <a href="http://www.raggedclown.com/2008/06/08/wave-the-white-flag-of-surrender/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had a pleasant conversation with a friend last week about whether McCain intends to keep American forces in Iraq forever, or just indefinitely. I think we concluded (at least I did) that both McCain and Obama would, at some point, decide that enough Americans had died and that the political situation was not improving and that the best way to force the issue would be to start withdrawing troops.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s McCain, from 1993 and 1994, on when America should &#8220;wave the white flag of surrender&#8221; and when the deadline for withdrawal should be set and on whom the responsibility would lie should more Americans die. </p>
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		<title>To save a president&#8217;s legacy</title>
		<link>http://www.raggedclown.com/2008/05/18/to-save-a-presidents-legacy/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 20:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s an excellent 8 page article in today&#8217;s NY Times magazine that chronicles McCain&#8217;s stance on the Iraq War. It&#8217;s mostly positive &#8211; if you agree with McCain&#8217;s stance &#8211; and, since the liberal media is not doing it&#8217;s job &#8230; <a href="http://www.raggedclown.com/2008/05/18/to-save-a-presidents-legacy/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an e<a title="NY Times" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/magazine/18mccain-t.html?pagewanted=1&amp;ref=magazine">xcellent 8 page article in today&#8217;s NY Times magazine</a> that chronicles McCain&#8217;s stance on the Iraq War. It&#8217;s mostly positive &#8211; if you agree with McCain&#8217;s stance &#8211; and, since the liberal media is not doing it&#8217;s job and focussing on the negative, I&#8217;ll have to do it&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>In his book, Chuck Hagel writes of listening to declassified tapes from the mid-1960s in which <a title="More articles about Lyndon Baines Johnson." href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/j/lyndon_baines_johnson/index.html?inline=nyt-per">Lyndon Johnson</a> admitted to advisers that Vietnam probably couldnâ€™t be won but rued that withdrawal would make him the first American president to lose a war. â€œI wish someone had told me when I was sitting on a burning tank in a Vietnamese rice paddy that I was fighting for a lost cause just to save a presidentâ€™s legacy,â€ Hagel observes acidly. Although McCain was held and tortured for the same cause, he never saw the situation the way Hagel did.</p></blockquote>
<p>For the positive bits, you&#8217;ll have to go read the article.</p>
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		<title>The war is going well</title>
		<link>http://www.raggedclown.com/2008/04/19/the-war-is-going-well/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I assume everyone has read the report in the New York Times telling the story of how the Generals who gave independent assessments of the war in Iraq were fed their lines, monitored and punished with loss of access and &#8230; <a href="http://www.raggedclown.com/2008/04/19/the-war-is-going-well/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume everyone has read the <a title="NY Times" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/washington/20generals.html?hp">report in the New York Times</a> telling the story of how the Generals who gave independent assessments of the war in Iraq were fed their lines, monitored and punished with loss of access and contracts by the Pentagon?</p>
<blockquote><p>â€œI saw immediately in 2003 that things were going south,â€ General Vallely, one of the Fox analysts on the trip, recalled in an interview with The Times.</p>
<p>The Pentagon, though, need not have worried.</p>
<p>â€œYou canâ€™t believe the progress,â€ General Vallely told Alan Colmes of Fox News upon his return. He predicted the insurgency would be â€œdown to a few numbersâ€ within months.</p></blockquote>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t, go <a title="NY Times" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/washington/20generals.html?hp">read it now</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Some Pentagon officials said they were well aware that some analysts viewed their special access as a business advantage. â€œOf course we realized that,â€ Mr. Krueger said. â€œWe werenâ€™t naÃ¯ve about that.â€</p>
<p>They also understood the financial relationship between the networks and their analysts. Many analysts were being paid by the â€œhit,â€ the number of times they appeared on TV. The more an analyst could boast of fresh inside information from high-level Pentagon â€œsources,â€ the more hits he could expect. The more hits, the greater his potential influence in the military marketplace, where several analysts prominently advertised their network roles.</p>
<p>â€œThey have taken lobbying and the search for contracts to a far higher level,â€ Mr. Krueger said. â€œThis has been highly honed.â€</p></blockquote>
<p>No doubt it was all very innocent.</p>
<blockquote><p>Mr. Di Rita, though, said it never occurred to him that analysts might use their access to curry favor. Nor, he said, did the Pentagon try to exploit this dynamic. â€œThatâ€™s not something that ever crossed my mind,â€ he said. In any event, he argued, the analysts and the networks were the ones responsible for any ethical complications. â€œWe assume they know where the lines are,â€ he said.</p></blockquote>
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