Comments on: No True Catholic Scotsman http://www.raggedclown.com/2006/08/09/no-true-catholic-scotsman/ It's just a shadow you're seeing that he's chasing... Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:08:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Kevin http://www.raggedclown.com/2006/08/09/no-true-catholic-scotsman/#comment-112 Kevin Sat, 12 Aug 2006 18:48:00 +0000 http://www.raggedclown.com/?p=96#comment-112 Just to make it clear ... I very definitely did not grow up with the trappings of catholicism. Catholics were those odd people who lived at number 93. Catholics were the kids at St Peter's Channel who we beat 9-0 when I got subbed at half-time because I scored two goals one of them from right by the corner flag (which Jonathon Swinney claimed was really a cross). Catholics were the ones who wouldn't eat meat on Fridays (I know because they used to make jokes about it on telly). I did not grow up as cultural catholic. Catholics are weirdos. Just to make it clear …

I very definitely did not grow up with the trappings of catholicism. Catholics were those odd people who lived at number 93. Catholics were the kids at St Peter’s Channel who we beat 9-0 when I got subbed at half-time because I scored two goals one of them from right by the corner flag (which Jonathon Swinney claimed was really a cross). Catholics were the ones who wouldn’t eat meat on Fridays (I know because they used to make jokes about it on telly).

I did not grow up as cultural catholic. Catholics are weirdos.

]]> By: Rob Heiser http://www.raggedclown.com/2006/08/09/no-true-catholic-scotsman/#comment-111 Rob Heiser Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:16:03 +0000 http://www.raggedclown.com/?p=96#comment-111 I don't know if the changed capitalization of the word "catholic" was intentional, but I assume it was. In that sense, I think the idea of a "cultural catholic" is different from Andrew's disregard for the idea of a "cultural Catholic". Living with the trappings of "catholicism" is definitely an interwoven part of our culture. Furthermore, these trappings have been informed over time by popular culture or political whim outside of any official beliefs of the Christian religion, let alone the Catholic Church. On the other hand, "Catholic" is defined by the Nacine Creed and doesn't allow room for a "Catholic-by-trappings". I never thought I'd see the day where you used the gilt and political machinery around the church to identify yourself *as* a Christian. I fully expect at lunch on Monday to hear Dan declare himself a "cultural carnivore" because he lives within the trappings of the carnivore lifestyle. I don’t know if the changed capitalization of the word “catholic” was intentional, but I assume it was. In that sense, I think the idea of a “cultural catholic” is different from Andrew’s disregard for the idea of a “cultural Catholic”. Living with the trappings of “catholicism” is definitely an interwoven part of our culture. Furthermore, these trappings have been informed over time by popular culture or political whim outside of any official beliefs of the Christian religion, let alone the Catholic Church. On the other hand, “Catholic” is defined by the Nacine Creed and doesn’t allow room for a “Catholic-by-trappings”. I never thought I’d see the day where you used the gilt and political machinery around the church to identify yourself *as* a Christian. I fully expect at lunch on Monday to hear Dan declare himself a “cultural carnivore” because he lives within the trappings of the carnivore lifestyle.

]]> By: Julio http://www.raggedclown.com/2006/08/09/no-true-catholic-scotsman/#comment-110 Julio Sat, 12 Aug 2006 14:47:59 +0000 http://www.raggedclown.com/?p=96#comment-110 Interesting. A Cultural Catholic is certainly how I identify myself, especially in a country where catholicism is less popular than other alternatives. When I was a little kid, I remember asking my mom for steak on that holy friday where you're not supposed to eat meat (can't remember when, I'm not that cultural :). The simple fact that I had to rebel against stupid things like that, meant that it was part of me, part of my culture. I never rebelled against not eating pork for example. Interesting. A Cultural Catholic is certainly how I identify myself, especially in a country where catholicism is less popular than other alternatives.

When I was a little kid, I remember asking my mom for steak on that holy friday where you’re not supposed to eat meat (can’t remember when, I’m not that cultural :).

The simple fact that I had to rebel against stupid things like that, meant that it was part of me, part of my culture. I never rebelled against not eating pork for example.

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